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Based on networks 10.8.16.0/22 and 10.8.31.0/21, which of the following is the BEST summarized CIDR notation?

  • A. 10.8.0.0/16
  • B. 10.8.0.0/19
  • C. 10.8.0.0/20
  • D. 10.0.0.0/24
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TT
Highly Voted 5 years, 5 months ago
C 00001010.00001000.00010000.00000000 (10.8.16.0) 00001010.00001000.00011111.00000000 (10.8.31.0) The last bit that they have in common is the 3rd octet 4th bit. (bit 20) It would normally be a /21 but the best choice of the ones given is /20
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Mark0P0L0
4 years, 5 months ago
Unfortuntely no! /20 will give you 10.8.15.255 (count your own bits- there are 16+3=19) as the broadcast, but /19 will cover 10.8.31.255- so /19 is the BEST at this particular logic. But I guess our BEST involves VLMS( Variable Length Subnet Masking) where we choose sufficient but not excessive subnet masking and following that logic- it should be /19. BUT, CompTIA disregards it and focuses on full octet usage, which since .16.0 and .31.0 in example showing such- means /21. That is the only logical explanation I have!
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TeflonJimmy
Highly Voted 5 years, 2 months ago
TT is 99.9999% right. The answer is "C" but to do the summarization you have to count how many bits the common pattern has and the common pattern for this question is: 00001010.00001000.0001 (20)
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Semper_Fortis
4 years, 1 month ago
At first I thought KC had it right, but then I realized I had neglected to include the fact that the 20th bit was also the same for both addresses, which make 20 bits in common and thus /20 for the summarization. I agree with TT and TeflonJimmy.
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Mahdi2022
Most Recent 2 years, 7 months ago
Definitely A is correct CIDR Notation is /20 but Question is asking about summarized (Short) CIDR which is /16. IP Address: 10.8.0.0/16 Network Address: 10.8.0.0 Usable Host IP Range: 10.8.0.1 - 10.8.15.254 Broadcast Address: 10.8.15.255 Total Number of Hosts: 4,096 Number of Usable Hosts: 4,094 Subnet Mask: 255.255.240.0 Binary Subnet Mask: 11111111.11111111.11110000.00000000 CIDR Notation: /20 IP Type: Private *** Short: 10.8.0.0/16 /20 ****
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chanke
2 years, 8 months ago
Selected Answer: C
This is definitely a /20
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PeoplesChamp
2 years, 9 months ago
/16 makes sense to me because they both have 10.8 in it which equals to 16 bits
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tokaxar738
3 years ago
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/cidr-help.3659231/
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3 years ago
Let me give my way of counting subnets. 16 bit = 65 aprox 64 × 4 = 255 aprox hops of IP Don't know why but when I multiply with 4 I get aporx address of subnets with reminder of -2 to score
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jllrk1
3 years, 1 month ago
based on multiple subnet calculators I have utilized (here is a link to one of them: https://www.subnet-calculator.org/supernets.php) the answer should be C 10.8.16.0/20
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G0dfather
3 years, 1 month ago
/16 is the right answer watch IP Subnetting from CIDR Notations on youtube 00001010.00001000.00010000.00000000 (10.8.16.0) is a /22 00001010.00001000.00011111.00000000 (10.8.31.0) is a /21 so you take the common subnet bit from each ip according to their CIDR which = 16
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ekafasti
3 years, 1 month ago
Both A and B include the full IP address range of both networks, though B does so with less over-summarizing. Is there any rule in supernetting / route summarization that would make B (10.8.0.0/19) ineligible for some reason? Because if there is, then A would be a better answer.
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HisFave
3 years, 3 months ago
C. /20 is the answer
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Psy1003
3 years, 8 months ago
The Answer is A the only thing you need to know is what they have in common and that would be only the first 2 octets so CIDR notation tells you 16 uses the full range of the first 2 Octets.
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Phoeni
3 years, 8 months ago
There are not a IP address,you can not only consider the 10.8.31.0(this is not a IP address!!,is represent a subnet) 10.8.31.0/21=10.8.31.0--10.8.38.255 10.8.0.0/19=10.8.0.0--10.8.31.255,this answer B doesn't cover 10.8.32.0--10.8.38.255 so only can choose 10.8.0.0/16=10.8.0.0--10.8.255.255
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Phoeni
3 years, 8 months ago
I find the problem that the subnet 10.8.31.0/21 is improper, i think is type error, 10.8.31.0/21>10.8.32.0/21 =10.8.32.0--10.8.39.255
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3 years, 10 months ago
I agree with TT. The correct answer is C. 00001010.00001000.0001 0000.00000000 (10.8.16.0) 00001010.00001000.0001 1111.00000000 (10.8.31.0) /20
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jrmugz
3 years, 10 months ago
From my calculations, when you go bit by bit and deduce the number of subnets for each, there are 16 subnets allowed for in 10.8.16.0/22 and 64 subnets allowed for in 10.8.31.0/21. Therefore, 16 networks would be the least common number, and A. 10.8.0.0 / 16 would be the answer. Three resources that helped me with IP addressing is Professor messer's 7 second subnetting on youtube, Master I.T.s lecture on subnetting, and then this for practicing problem after problem. http://www.subnettingquestions.com/
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Jonasye
3 years, 11 months ago
I don't understand why lots of people choose answer C? Please do subletting firstly and have a look, C and D don't overlap the two given networks, and B is the smallest(best) subletting here can contain both of them. 10.8.16.0/22 10.8.16.0 - 10.8.19.255 10.8.31.0/21 10.8.16.0 - 10.8.31.255 A. 10.8.0.0/16 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.255.255 B. 10.8.0.0/19 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.31.255 C. 10.8.0.0/20 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.15.255 D. 10.0.0.0/24 10.0.0.0 - 10.0.0.255
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Rgpker
3 years, 11 months ago
Why are you starting with 10.8.16.0 for network 10.8.31.0???? Redo your calculations on the second subnet and you will come up with the right answer.
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Jonasye
3 years, 10 months ago
Just corrected as below, you can calculate the subnet by using any tools, it will be the same, but I would still choose B, A is too large. I also correct your anwser above. 10.8.16.0/22 10.8.16.0 - 10.8.19.255 10.8.31.0/21 10.8.24.0 - 10.8.31.255 So the range is at least from 10.8.16.0 - 10.8.31.255 you can see only A, B contains this range, but B is much smaller. A. 10.8.0.0/16 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.255.255 B. 10.8.0.0/19 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.31.255 C. 10.8.0.0/20 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.15.255 D. 10.0.0.0/24 10.0.0.0 - 10.0.0.255
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Some_Random_Nerd
2 years, 5 months ago
well said! very succinct too. the options provided for answers are specific, the Network ID is included, and overrides the number of bits. it could have been /20, if that was ALL they included in the choices, but they were specific.
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Rgpker
3 years, 11 months ago
The answer is A. /20 will give you the subnets of 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.14.255 // 10.8.15.0 - 10.8.29.255 and so on. /19 will give you 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.30.255 // 10.8.31.0 - 10.8.61.255 and so on. For the networks provided in the question, you need to account for the subnets of 10.8.16.0 - 10.8.18.255 and 10.8.31.0-10.8.37.255. Hope this helps and if my math is wrong please let me know.
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Jonasye
3 years, 10 months ago
10.8.0.0/20: sbunet should be: 10.8.0.0 - 10.8.15.255, block size is 16 not 15, and so on. the same: /19 should be 31.255, not 30.255 and so on
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