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Question #: 59
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An engineer notices some late collisions on a half-duplex link. The engineer verifies that the devices on both ends of the connection are configured for half duplex.
Which of the following is the MOST likely cause of this issue?

  • A. The link is improperly terminated
  • B. One of the devices is misconfigured
  • C. The cable length is excessive
  • D. One of the devices has a hardware issue
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Suggested Answer: C 🗳️

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Highly Voted 3 years, 1 month ago
If duplex and RX/TX are correct, then late collisions most likely occur from cable lengths being too excessive.
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I_Know_Everything_KY
1 year, 6 months ago
One of the choices is literally "One of the devices is misconfigured": by your own logic this should be the answer.
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MikeGeo
11 months, 4 weeks ago
That is not the answer due to the technician making sure both were on half duplex. That answer is a trap for those that don't read the full question. IMO
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Highly Voted 2 years, 4 months ago
Selected Answer: D
Long cables cause CRC issues, not collisions. Half duplex shouldn't have collisions. This can only mean bad NIC. Hardware issue. Source: network engineer.
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JJay99
2 months, 2 weeks ago
This network engineer bought his certs then because that's wrong
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neogipson
2 years, 2 months ago
Full duplex doesn't have collisions, not half duplex.
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Le081
Most Recent 8 months ago
Selected Answer: C
The most likely cause of late collisions on a half-duplex link, even when both devices are configured for half duplex, is: C. The cable length is excessive Late collisions typically occur when the cable length exceeds the maximum allowed for Ethernet standards, causing the collision detection mechanism to fail12. This results in collisions being detected too late in the transmission process.
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stanislaus450
1 year ago
Selected Answer: C
Late collisions on a half-duplex link indicate that a collision occurred after the normal time frame for collision detection has passed. In a properly functioning network, late collisions on a half-duplex link are typically caused by: C. The cable length is excessive Late collisions can occur due to the time it takes for the electrical signal to propagate along the length of the cable. When the cable length is excessive, the electrical signal may not reach the other end of the cable before a collision occurs, resulting in late collisions. Therefore, an excessive cable length is the most likely cause of late collisions on a half-duplex link when both devices are correctly configured for half duplex.
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Bo_Knows
1 year, 2 months ago
Selected Answer: C
The keyword here is late collisions, only cable being too long will create a late collisions problem.
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drosas84
1 year, 2 months ago
Selected Answer: C
The answer is C. A is not because there are late collisions, so it was properly terminated. B isn't the answer either because the question says "The engineer verifies that the devices on both ends of the connection are configured for half duplex". D isn't the answer either because a hardware issue or NIC would not allow a transmission at all. So the only answer is C because late collisions happen due to exceeded cable length limits.
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drosas84
1 year, 2 months ago
The answer is C. A is not because there are late collisions, so it was properly terminated. B isn't the answer either because the question says "The engineer verifies that the devices on both ends of the connection are configured for half duplex". D isn't the answer either because a hardware issue or NIC would not allow a transmission at all. So the only answer is C because late collisions happen due to exceeded cable length limits.
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M3taCort3x
1 year, 3 months ago
Answer is C: Late collisions on a half-duplex link are typically caused by a mismatch in the configuration of the devices involved. In this scenario, where both ends of the connection are configured for half duplex, the most likely cause of late collisions is a problem with the cable infrastructure. To address this issue, you may want to check and ensure that the cable length is within the specified limits for the network technology in use.
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nextseason
1 year, 7 months ago
Late collision: when a collision is detected outside of the standard collision window. This indicates that the collision happened after a significant portion of the frame was transmitted. So only part of the frame made it. ChatGPT says it's D. NIC.
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Labargo
1 year, 7 months ago
Selected Answer: C
Excessive cable length can lead to late collisions in a half-duplex Ethernet connection. Late collisions occur when a device detects that a collision has occurred after it has already transmitted a significant portion of its frame. This can happen because it takes time for the electrical signal to propagate down a cable, and if the cable is too long, the signal may not reach the other end in time to detect the collision.
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TheFivePips
1 year, 8 months ago
This is a bad question, again. This could be caused by either the cable length being too long, or a hardware (NIC) issues. As to which is more likely? IDK. Is it more likely whoever installed the thing used slgihtly too much cable and you only noticed now? Or is it more likely that this (probably legacy) system had a hardware failure. I guess I would still pick the cable answer for the simple fact that if the nic card was bad, you probably wouldnt have much of a connection at all. Hate it, but thats all I got
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StrawberryTechie
1 year, 7 months ago
agreed. A bad NIC equals no connection. I think it's C.
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MitchF
1 year, 8 months ago
When I put this exact question into ChatGPT, I got only 1 answer: "If an engineer notices late collisions on a half-duplex link and has verified that the devices on both ends of the connection are configured for half duplex, the MOST likely cause of this issue is: Excessive Cable Length: Late collisions in a half-duplex environment are often caused by signals taking too long to propagate along the cable. In a half-duplex setup, the devices can either transmit or receive at any given time, but not both simultaneously. If the cable length exceeds the maximum allowed for the specific Ethernet standard being used (e.g., Ethernet, Fast Ethernet), it can lead to signal propagation delays, resulting in collisions occurring even after a portion of the frame has been transmitted. To address this issue, the engineer should check the cable length and make sure it adheres to the recommended limits for the specific Ethernet standard. If the cable length is too long, it may need to be shortened or replaced with a higher-quality cable to reduce signal propagation delays and prevent late collisions." Thus, ChatGPT selects "C. The cable length is excessive"
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SmokedQ
2 years ago
Selected Answer: B
ChatGPT says: Late collisions on a half-duplex link can occur when a device transmits data while another device is still transmitting on the same link. In this scenario, since the devices on both ends of the link are configured for half-duplex, they cannot receive data while transmitting, which can result in late collisions. Therefore, the most likely cause of this issue is B. One of the devices is misconfigured. It is possible that one of the devices is operating in full-duplex mode instead of half-duplex mode. In full-duplex mode, devices can transmit and receive data at the same time, which eliminates the possibility of collisions. However, if one device is configured for full-duplex mode and the other device is configured for half-duplex mode, it can result in collisions and other performance issues. Other potential causes, such as improper termination, excessive cable length, or a hardware issue, are less likely to cause late collisions on a half-duplex link.
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Gustitute
2 years ago
Further, I asked it why C would not be the better answer and it gave me this. I know to be careful and thorough with Chatgpt but I trust it on this one. I think the best answer is B. "It is less likely that excessive cable length would cause late collisions on a half-duplex link. Typically, excessive cable length can lead to attenuation and signal degradation, resulting in errors and retransmissions rather than late collisions. Late collisions are more commonly caused by duplex mismatches or devices being misconfigured for half-duplex when they should be running at full duplex. Therefore, option B is still the most likely cause for late collisions in a half-duplex link."
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Gustitute
2 years ago
Lol nevermind. See Chatgpt is stupid here. The question says settings are configured correctly for half duplex on both ends. F me - Sorry people, where is my mind?
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Gustitute
2 years ago
Ok, sorry everybody, I promise I'm not as stupid as I might seem. I clarified a little more with Mr. Chatbot over here and got him to admit, "Apologies for the confusion. If both devices are configured for half-duplex, the cable length could indeed be the cause of the issue. In half-duplex mode, Ethernet devices rely on CSMA/CD (Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection) to detect and manage collisions on the network. CSMA/CD works by monitoring the transmission medium for other frames being transmitted and waiting for a gap to transmit its own frame. Excessive cable length can cause significant delays in the signal propagation, leading to overlapping frames and late collisions. Therefore, option C is a possible cause of the issue when both devices are set to half-duplex."
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crazywai1221
2 years ago
Selected Answer: D
when i think of C, the cable length may be 100km+, it seems impossible I go for D
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RobV
2 years ago
Selected Answer: C
B. The cable length is excessive is the most likely cause of this issue. Late collisions occur when a device tries to transmit a frame onto the network, but detects a collision has occurred after it has finished transmitting the frame. In half-duplex mode, collisions can occur because both devices are trying to transmit on the same link at the same time. Excessive cable length can cause a delay in the signal reaching the other end of the cable, which can result in collisions. The longer the cable, the longer the delay, and the higher the chances of a collision occurring. Improperly terminated links or hardware issues can also cause collisions, but they are less likely to be the cause in this scenario where both devices are configured for half duplex.
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RobV
2 years ago
I typoed: Answer is C
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bjola
2 years, 1 month ago
One of the devices certainly have an hardware issues and could not sense when the media is engage, hence sending at same time leading to collision. If Network card is functional without fault, it should sense the transmission and hold for clearance.
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MelzTheArtist
2 years, 2 months ago
Selected Answer: C
The most likely cause of the late collisions on a half-duplex link is that the cable length is excessive. In half-duplex mode, when two devices send data at the same time, a collision occurs, and both devices must wait for a random period before retransmitting the data. If the cable length is excessive, it may take longer for the collision signal to reach the far end of the cable, causing late collisions. To resolve the issue, the engineer should reduce the cable length or switch to full-duplex mode.
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